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SteveJobs:Thelostinterview

史蒂夫乔布斯：遗失的访谈

ImBobCringley,16yearsagowhenIwasmakingmytelevisionseriesTriumphoftheNerds,IinterviewedSteveJobs.Thatwasin1995,10yearsearlierStevehadleftApple,followingabruisingstrugglewithJohnSculley,theCEOhehadbroughtintothecompany.Atthetimeofourinterview,StevewasrunningNeXT,thenichecomputercompanyhefoundedafterleavingApple.Littlebitweknowwaswithin18monthshewouldsellNeXTtoApple,and6monthlaterhedberunningtheplace.

我是BobCringley，16年前（1995）我制作《书呆子的胜利》时采访了乔布斯。1985年，乔布斯被他自己引荐的CEOJohnSculley排挤出苹果。接受釆访时，乔布斯正在经营他创办的NeXT公司，18个月后苹果收购NeXT，半年后乔布斯重新掌管苹果。

Thewaythingsworkintelevisionweuseonlyapartofthatinterviewintheseries.AndforyearswethoughttheinterviewwaslostforforeverbecausethemastertapeweremissingwhilebeingshippedfromLondontoUSinthe1990s.Thenjustafewdaysago,seriesdirectorPaulSenfoundaVHScopyofthatinterviewinhisgarage.

当年的节目只用了一小段采访，九十年代末采访母带从伦敦运往美国途中遗失，多年来我们一直以为再也看不到完整的采访，然而几天前导演PaulSen在车库里发现了一份VHS拷贝。

ThereareveryfewTVinterviewswithSteveJobsandalmostnogoodones.Theyrarelyshowthecharisma,candorandvisionthatthisinterviewdoes.Andsotohonoranamazingman,heresthatinterviewinitsentirety.Mostofthesehasneverbeenseenbefore.

乔布斯生前很少接受电视采访，如此精彩的访谈更是罕见。它记录了乔布斯的坦率，非凡的魅力和独特的视野。为了向这位奇人致敬，我们几乎一刀未剪，大部分内容是首次公布于众。

So,howdidyougetinvolved,uh,withpersonalcomputers?

你是怎么与个人计算机结缘的？

Well,IranintomyfirstcomputerwhenIwasabout10or11.Andit’shardtorememberbackthenbutI’m,I’mnofossilenow,I’mnofossile…SowhenIwas10or11,thatwasabout30yearsagoandnoonehadeverseenacomputer.Totheextentthey’dseenthem,they’dseentheminthemovies.

我第一次见到计算机是10或11岁。很难回忆当年的情景，我可不是故作老成……大约30多年前，见过电脑的人不多，即使见到，也是在电影里。

Andtheywerereallybigboxeswith...Forsomereasontheyfixateditonthetapedrives,asbeingtheiconofwhatt